3D Fab Meeting - 20150412

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Lisa renamed the Hangout to 3D Fab Meeting - Sunday 04/12/2015 @ 4 PM
Setting up the Hangout for the 3D Fab Meeting. The meeting will be held on Sunday, April 12th, from 4 PM - 5 PM.
The primary focus of the meeting is to vote on who will be Chairperson of 3D Fab.

I'll be adding members who request to join the meeting, as I receive the requests. If y'all know anyone who wants to join the meeting, please ask them to make sure to add themselves to the 3D Fab Committee wiki page as a member, and then add them to this hangout. Thanks! πŸ˜ƒ
Apr 2, 6:03 PM
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Cook
Cool
Mitch β€’ Apr 2, 6:53 PM
You added Matt Zeisler to the Hangout.
You added David to the Hangout.
You added Shaun Richardson to the Hangout.
You added Oguz Yetkin and William Petefish to the Hangout.
Oguz Yetkin
Hello 3D peoples.
Oguz β€’ 3:45 PM
Hiya Oguz πŸ˜ƒ
Meeting will begin at 4pm
3:45 PM
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Hey Oz
Mitch β€’ 3:46 PM
You added Matthew Whitby to the Hangout.
Mitch Cerroni
And matt hi
Mitch β€’ 3:46 PM
You added Techno Probic to the Hangout.
Mitch Cerroni
Still have to figure out this pipboy model. I wish I had time to remodel the whole thing using a parametric modeler
Mitch β€’ 3:47 PM
Please wait until the meeting...
πŸ˜ƒ
(and any 3D Fab general chat, please use the regular 3D Fab Committee hangout... Thx Bunches! πŸ˜ƒ )
3:48 PM
Lisa Selk
David
πŸ˜€
David β€’ 3:59 PM
Welcome Everyone! πŸ˜ƒ
4:00 PM
Lisa Selk
William Petefish
hi
William β€’ 4:00 PM
Mitch Cerroni
Hello World!
Mitch β€’ 4:00 PM
If you would like to VOTE, please be sure you are on the wiki.... πŸ˜ƒ
4:00 PM
Lisa Selk
I'll give y'all a few minutes to get it added
4:01 PM
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
What's the url just to make sure
Mitch β€’ 4:01 PM
https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/3DFab-Members-RolesAndAuthorizations#3D_Fab_General_Members
4:01 PM
Lisa Selk
William Petefish
./yawn
William β€’ 4:02 PM
be a good boy William
4:02 PM
Lisa Selk
frank lima
Meeting agenda?
frank β€’ 4:02 PM
I'll post it in a few minutes. We are waiting on John K and any stragglers before we take Roll Call
4:03 PM
Lisa Selk
Thanks πŸ˜ƒ
4:03 PM
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Told Krissy about it but she's busy so not counting on it
Mitch β€’ 4:03 PM
You added Sean Greenslade to the Hangout.
Yeah I mentioned it a few minutes ago, too. Thanks πŸ˜ƒ
4:04 PM
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Glad it was posted all over the space and the room but you know how people (including me) are about reading
Mitch β€’ 4:04 PM
You added John Kuhlenschmidt to the Hangout.
Mitch Cerroni
Pearce's ninjaflex sign is a nice touch
Mitch β€’ 4:05 PM
Mitch Cerroni
Hey john K
Mitch β€’ 4:05 PM
You added Krissy Heishman to the Hangout.
Mitch Cerroni
Hey Krissy
Mitch β€’ 59 mins
Krissy Heishman
Ho
Krissy β€’ 59 mins
Krissy Heishman
Hi
Krissy β€’ 59 mins
Hi πŸ˜ƒ
59 mins
Lisa Selk
Krissy Heishman
Battery is at 2% until I get a charger so if I disconnect temporarily that's why
Krissy β€’ 58 mins
OK... Has everyone who would like to VOTE had a chance to add themselves to the wiki?
58 mins
Lisa Selk
William Petefish
Lisa is helping John right now.
William β€’ 57 mins
We are going to have Roll Call as soon as John can get online... πŸ˜ƒ
56 mins
Lisa Selk
William Petefish
On the plus side, we have some prints to inspect... We are not going to tell what printed what color... so, come in and inspect.
William β€’ 55 mins
Mitch added D Smart to the Hangout.
Krissy Heishman
Yay charger at 1% I made it!
Krissy β€’ 55 mins
frank added Pearce Dunlap and James Koffeman to the Hangout.
While we are waiting...

The vote for committee chairperson will begin soon after
54 mins
Lisa Selk
frank added Brandon Dunson to the Hangout.
You added Evan Lott to the Hangout.
Brandon Dunson left the Hangout.
So far, running for chair are Mitch and I
52 mins
Lisa Selk
does anyone else want to be considered for chairperson?
51 mins
Lisa Selk
If so, please say so now
51 mins
Lisa Selk
Let's begin with Roll Call. Please say Present and let us know if you are here to observe or vote
51 mins
Lisa Selk
frank lima
Present
frank β€’ 51 mins
William Petefish
Present
William β€’ 51 mins
Present - VOTE
51 mins
Lisa Selk
Sean Greenslade
Present
Sean β€’ 51 mins
Oguz Yetkin
Present.
Oguz β€’ 51 mins
Krissy Heishman
Present and voting
Krissy β€’ 51 mins
Matthew Whitby
present
Matthew β€’ 50 mins
William Petefish
& vote
William β€’ 50 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Present and voting
Mitch β€’ 50 mins
Oguz Yetkin
Present and voting I meant.
Oguz β€’ 50 mins
David
Present - vote
David β€’ 50 mins
frank lima
voteing as well
frank β€’ 50 mins
Matthew Whitby
vote
Matthew β€’ 50 mins
Techno Probic
Present - Vote (John Lindsay)
Techno β€’ 50 mins
frank lima
What is the role list?
frank β€’ 50 mins
frank lima
By my reading:

William
Lisa
frank β€’ 50 mins
frank lima
Frank
frank β€’ 50 mins
I'm not sure what you mean, Frank?
50 mins
Lisa Selk
frank lima
Oguz
frank β€’ 49 mins
frank lima
Mathew
frank β€’ 49 mins
frank lima
Mitch
frank β€’ 49 mins
frank lima
David
frank β€’ 49 mins
frank lima
and John
frank β€’ 49 mins
You added Brooks Scharff to the Hangout.
frank lima
I Missed Krissy
frank β€’ 48 mins
Brooks Scharff
Redo...
Brooks β€’ 48 mins
Brooks is going to keep a tally for us.. THANKS Brooks! πŸ˜ƒ
48 mins
Lisa Selk
Brooks Scharff
Can we do a fresh headcount?
Brooks β€’ 48 mins
Brooks Scharff
Please say present if you're here!
Brooks β€’ 48 mins
Yes... Let's begin now
48 mins
Lisa Selk
Present
48 mins
Lisa Selk
frank lima
Present
frank β€’ 48 mins
Oguz Yetkin
Present and voting
Oguz β€’ 48 mins
Sean Greenslade
Present
Sean β€’ 48 mins
William Petefish
Present and voting
William β€’ 48 mins
Techno Probic
Present, voting
Techno β€’ 48 mins
David
Present and voting
David β€’ 48 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Present and voting
Mitch β€’ 47 mins
Krissy Heishman
Present and voting
Krissy β€’ 47 mins
Present and voting
47 mins
Lisa Selk
frank lima
& voteing
frank β€’ 47 mins
Matthew Whitby
present and voting
Matthew β€’ 47 mins
You added Andrew Falgout to the Hangout.
Brooks Scharff
I have 10 people marked as present, anyone else?
Brooks β€’ 46 mins
frank lima
List?
frank β€’ 46 mins
Brooks Scharff
Frank
Oguz
Lisa
Sean
William
Techno
David
Mitch
Krissy
Matthew
Mxxsg==οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Brooks β€’ 46 mins
Brooks is getting it
46 mins
Lisa Selk
Thanks Brooks
46 mins
Lisa Selk
frank lima
Meeting agenda?
frank β€’ 45 mins
We are still getting Roll Call πŸ˜ƒ
45 mins
Lisa Selk
John K's browser was not compatible, so he's switching browsers πŸ˜ƒ
44 mins
Lisa Selk
John K
44 mins
Lisa Selk
Andrew Falgout
here
Andrew β€’ 44 mins
David
(Andrew please call me later at: 888-RATCLIF)
David β€’ 44 mins
Evan Lott
Andrew Falgout
k.. have cnc router training after this
Andrew β€’ 43 mins
John K can you see us now?
43 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Wow this is a great turn out
Mitch β€’ 42 mins
John Kuhlenschmidt
Yes
Present & voting
John β€’ 42 mins
Time to vote before Krissy's phone dies πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜ƒ
42 mins
Lisa Selk
Krissy Heishman
Ya def. Because print all the things.
Krissy β€’ 42 mins
Andrew Falgout
present and voting
Andrew β€’ 42 mins
Krissy Heishman
Hehe
Krissy β€’ 42 mins
frank lima
Brooks final list?
frank β€’ 41 mins
Brooks Scharff
I have 12 people present: Frank
Oguz
Lisa
Sean
William
Techno
David
Mitch
Krissy
Matthew
AndrewF
JohnK
οΏ½
Brooks β€’ 41 mins
Please vote for Chairperson of 3D Fab please:

Lisa or Mitch

Mitch has also suggested alternative of
Co-Chair (the two of us would have to vote on everything) or Chair plus Assistant Chair (chair has final say... Assistant helps)
and GO!
40 mins
Lisa Selk
I vote Lisa πŸ˜ƒ
40 mins
Lisa Selk
Matt Zeisler
Present and voting
Matt β€’ 40 mins
Andrew Falgout
lisa
Andrew β€’ 40 mins
William Petefish
lisa...
William β€’ 40 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Self vote - Mitch
Mitch β€’ 39 mins
Andrew Falgout
i flipped the printed heart
Andrew β€’ 39 mins
Matthew Whitby
I vote for Mitch
Matthew β€’ 39 mins
David
vote for Mitch
David β€’ 39 mins
John Kuhlenschmidt
both
John β€’ 39 mins
Brooks Scharff
Please pick one or the other
Brooks β€’ 39 mins
Krissy Heishman
Or abstain
Krissy β€’ 38 mins
Brooks Scharff
Don't abstain
Brooks β€’ 38 mins
John Kuhlenschmidt
Mich
John β€’ 38 mins
Brooks Scharff
If you want to abstain just leave LOL
Brooks β€’ 38 mins
Krissy Heishman
It's A sign of respect
Krissy β€’ 38 mins
Techno Probic
I vote for Mitch
Techno β€’ 38 mins
Krissy Heishman
Having trouble deciding. I think both candidates are great but gonna throw my vote in for mitch I think
Krissy β€’ 37 mins
Brooks Scharff
Still waiting on the following to vote: Frank, Oguz, Sean, Matt
Brooks β€’ 37 mins
Mitch Cerroni
There's also possible co chair or assistant as she said, not sure how that's decided
Mitch β€’ 36 mins
Brooks Scharff
Separate vote would be easiest to handle
Brooks β€’ 36 mins
Matthew Whitby
I voted mitch
Matthew β€’ 36 mins
Matt Zeisler
Lisa
Matt β€’ 36 mins
Brooks Scharff
Matt, not Mathew πŸ˜‰
Brooks β€’ 36 mins
Matthew Whitby
Ah ok
Matthew β€’ 36 mins
Sean Greenslade
I'm not voting, sorry Brooks.
Sean β€’ 35 mins
Brooks Scharff
Abstain, OK
Brooks β€’ 35 mins
Oguz Yetkin
I vote for Lisa.
Oguz β€’ 35 mins
Matt Zeisler
Followed closely with Mitch as a vice chair.
Matt β€’ 35 mins
Brooks Scharff
Frank, it's just a name.
Brooks β€’ 34 mins
Brooks Scharff
Time for questions was before the meeting
Brooks β€’ 33 mins
Brooks Scharff
Orr, before the vote rather
Brooks β€’ 33 mins
Brooks Scharff
Vote concludes in 30 seconds
Brooks β€’ 32 mins
Brooks Scharff
Still waiting on Frank
Brooks β€’ 31 mins
Frank, if you are still trying to decide based on who will do what you want...
31 mins
Lisa Selk
Brooks Scharff
15 seconds
Brooks β€’ 31 mins
I've already run the idea that you want the room for Vector --- it is not a decision that either Mitch or I can make
31 mins
Lisa Selk
Brooks Scharff
Voting has concluded.
Brooks β€’ 31 mins
it's up to the Board
31 mins
Lisa Selk
Brooks Scharff
Committee chair recommendation will be: Mitch
Brooks β€’ 30 mins
Brooks Scharff
Votes are as follows:
Lisa - 5
Mitch - 6
Abstain - 1
Brooks β€’ 30 mins
Thanks for keeping up with that Brooks! πŸ˜ƒ
30 mins
Lisa Selk
Krissy Heishman
Yes ty solid work
Krissy β€’ 30 mins
David
Thank you Lisa for all your work with 3D fab up to now, congrat Mitch
David β€’ 29 mins
frank lima left the Hangout.
Thank you David
29 mins
Lisa Selk
Krissy Heishman
Likewise
Krissy β€’ 29 mins
Krissy Heishman
Lisa you do so much for the space
Krissy β€’ 29 mins
I'm not going anywhere... will still be active πŸ˜ƒ
29 mins
Lisa Selk
Krissy Heishman
<3
Krissy β€’ 29 mins
David
excellent!
David β€’ 29 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Yes Lisa can be assistant chair if that's ok
Mitch β€’ 28 mins
Matt Zeisler
Do we need to vote on assistant chair?
Matt β€’ 28 mins
no
28 mins
Lisa Selk
That's totally the Chairperson's call
28 mins
Lisa Selk
David
Once you are chair Mitch, does that means you will sit on your laurels and stop holding the class?
David β€’ 27 mins
I will submit the recommendation to the Board
27 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Lol I'll hold me more classes I hope
Mitch β€’ 27 mins
Krissy Heishman

)

Krissy β€’ 27 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Thank you Lisa
Mitch β€’ 27 mins
No problem
27 mins
Lisa Selk
Now for the rest of the meeting
27 mins
Lisa Selk
Is there anything anyone would like to discuss?
27 mins
Lisa Selk
Krissy Heishman
I might need to dodge out in a few. Family dinner. But I will review the chat history.
Krissy β€’ 26 mins
Sounds good. Thanks for joining Krissy πŸ˜ƒ
25 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Hows the banana pi tests so far?
Mitch β€’ 25 mins
We are still running the tests
25 mins
Lisa Selk
Krissy Heishman
Np glad I could find a charger that was a close one haha
Krissy β€’ 25 mins
You should come by and help πŸ˜ƒ
25 mins
Lisa Selk
William Petefish
lol... just finished the prelims.
William β€’ 25 mins
Matt Zeisler
I would like to bring up the idea of frosted glass as a webcam privacy cover. You can still see that something is being printed and that it isn't messing up but not exactly what is being printed.
Matt β€’ 25 mins
lol electricity for the win!
25 mins
Lisa Selk
Sean Greenslade
Matt, why?
Sean β€’ 24 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Also my new work hours are Sun-Thur 3:30-midnight so I'll be active after midnight and on fri and saturday
Mitch β€’ 24 mins
Krissy Heishman
Just unfocus it
Krissy β€’ 24 mins
William Petefish
It will now be sudden death by Delta...
William β€’ 24 mins
The resolution is not real great anyway - to keep bandwidth issues in check πŸ˜ƒ
24 mins
Lisa Selk
Matt Zeisler
True
Matt β€’ 24 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Yeah 320x240 is super unclear
Mitch β€’ 24 mins
Matt Zeisler
If it's a solution lacking a problem, that's fine.
Matt β€’ 23 mins
correct. "just" clear enough to see if there's spaghetti building up or not
23 mins
Lisa Selk
Krissy Heishman
Perfect
Krissy β€’ 23 mins
and frame rate is low, too
23 mins
Lisa Selk
Matthew Whitby
How hard is it to change the extruders from ABS to Ninja Flex?
Matthew β€’ 23 mins
Sean Greenslade
To note: the BBB, RPi, and BPi all performed a simultaneous print and webcam stream without issue.
Sean β€’ 23 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Also manually disabling the mics in the camera for the security conscious
Mitch β€’ 23 mins
Brooks Scharff left the Hangout.
We only have one extruder for that printer at the moment, so it will remain NinjaFlex for now
22 mins
Lisa Selk
PolyPrinter is optimizing things πŸ˜ƒ
22 mins
Lisa Selk
Sean Greenslade
MJPG does not support audio, so it will not be an issue.
Sean β€’ 22 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Even though you won't hear anything there's some people that think so ☺
Mitch β€’ 22 mins
No intention of having mics on
22 mins
Lisa Selk
John Kuhlenschmidt
Need to go now talk with you all later
John β€’ 22 mins
John Kuhlenschmidt
Sean Greenslade
Literally, the streaming software cannot send audio.
Sean β€’ 22 mins
Krissy Heishman
Just make sure they know that the "stream" is just basically a page with images updating. Not real video.
Krissy β€’ 21 mins
Thanks again John πŸ˜ƒ
21 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Yeah it was just a concern brought up at the member meeting
Mitch β€’ 21 mins
Will do Krissy πŸ˜ƒ
20 mins
Lisa Selk
Andrew Falgout
Krissy Heishman
Dinner time. :) ttyl
Krissy β€’ 20 mins
Matt Zeisler
Is there a stream viewable publicly now or is testing still going on?
Matt β€’ 20 mins
πŸ‘
20 mins
Lisa Selk
still testing
20 mins
Lisa Selk
Sean Greenslade
The stream is viewable from inside the network
Sean β€’ 20 mins
Mitch Cerroni
After testing the IP will be forwarded. Probably access control limited to view only
Mitch β€’ 20 mins
Sean Greenslade
http://192.168.202.60:8081/
Sean β€’ 19 mins
I'll post details after we get it configured
19 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
If there's a security concern, just stream the camera or have option to disable for print maybe
Mitch β€’ 19 mins
I've already said that external streaming will be video only
"read only"
18 mins
Lisa Selk
no external controls for the camera feed
17 mins
Lisa Selk
the OctoPrint will be all internal
17 mins
Lisa Selk
Sean Greenslade
Camera feeds will have zero controls.
Sean β€’ 16 mins
Pearce Dunlap
They are basic web cams. There isn't anything to controk
Pearce β€’ 16 mins
Mitch Cerroni
This isn't CSI.. enhance! Enhance!
Mitch β€’ 15 mins
Are there any other items that y'all would like to discuss as part of our meeting?
Also, is anyone on this chat who is not already on the general 3D Fab Committee chat, who would like to be added to the general chat?
14 mins
Lisa Selk
Pearce Dunlap
Sorry I was asleep for the vote, what's the stance on getting a scanner
Pearce β€’ 13 mins
I plan on adding an item on the board meeting
13 mins
Lisa Selk
Pearce Dunlap
The next engine 3d has had some nice results
Pearce β€’ 13 mins
Yes, that's the one
13 mins
Lisa Selk
I am going to request the 'upgrade' to pro
13 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Either a next engine is $3200
Mitch β€’ 13 mins
Krissy Heishman
Pearce Dunlap
Yes
Pearce β€’ 12 mins
they've made a lot of improvement since the HD version! πŸ˜ƒ
12 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
I would love to have very dimensionally accurate scans
Mitch β€’ 12 mins
http://www.nextengine.com/products/scanstudio-hd-pro/specs/overview
12 mins
Lisa Selk
check out the 'compare'
12 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
It has a range from a few Cm to a few meters. The kinect 2 can do decent body scans
Mitch β€’ 11 mins
Oguz Yetkin
Mitch Cerroni
Maximum distance: 30 in.
Field size: 16 in. X 22 in.
Accuracy at range end: 0.045 in.
Mitch β€’ 11 mins
I was going to try to set up a kinect station
11 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
45 thousandths of an inch accuracy is pretty darn good
Mitch β€’ 10 mins
Mitch, I'll be glad to let you take ownership of a full body scan station now, since the recommendation is that you become chair πŸ˜ƒ
9 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
Cool of anyone else still here has a recommendation for type of scanners
Mitch β€’ 8 mins
Sean Greenslade
I've used a Next Engine, and I would say it's not worth the cost.
Sean β€’ 8 mins
Also, I am still a procurement officer, so when you need to order filament, nozzles, etc... Just let me know what is needed - via e-mail - and I'll order it. πŸ˜ƒ
8 mins
Lisa Selk
Mitch Cerroni
I like the nextengine because its automated. The camera rig would be great for PR and way better than John's 3DS rig
Mitch β€’ 8 mins
Sean Greenslade
"automates"
Sean β€’ 7 mins
Matthew Whitby left the Hangout.
Sean Greenslade

  • "automated"

Sean β€’ 7 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Yeah UTA Fab lab seems to have problems with theirs when I was there, so they're definitely still finiky
Mitch β€’ 7 mins
Sean Greenslade
I'm not impressed with it personally.
Sean β€’ 7 mins
Sean Greenslade
Mitch Cerroni
I would like to have Solid Works classes as well of we could figure out licensing
Mitch β€’ 6 mins
Shaun Richardson
am i too late for voting? have been having technical difficulties getting onto Hangouts 😞
Shaun β€’ 6 mins
I would suggest you find a way to legally obtain a license FIRST, then if you can get one, then offer classes
6 mins
Lisa Selk
D Smart
Hi everyone!
D β€’ 6 mins
Meeting ends in one minute
5 mins
Lisa Selk
lol
5 mins
Lisa Selk
D Smart
Yeah, I've been itching to teach again. If we figure out licensing for SW I'm down to teach
D β€’ 5 mins
D Smart
Just stay on me about it
D β€’ 5 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Yeah Krissy frank and Dave are my resident sw experts
Mitch β€’ 5 mins
Shaun Richardson
If my vote counts still - Lisa. Otherwise I hail our glorious new leader
Shaun β€’ 5 mins
Shaun Richardson
whoever that ends up being
Shaun β€’ 4 mins
Mitch Cerroni
I think voting ended it was close
Mitch β€’ 4 mins
Shaun Richardson
dang. oh well.
Shaun β€’ 4 mins
Mitch Cerroni
Votes are as follows:
Lisa - 5
Mitch - 6
Abstain - 1
Mitch β€’ 4 mins
Thanks anyway Shaun
4 mins
Lisa Selk
Shaun Richardson
Mitch Cerroni
Consideration for the board
Mitch β€’ 3 mins
D Smart
Haha oh no
D β€’ 3 mins
... and, on that note. The meeting is over.
I'll post to the wiki and TALK a little later this evening
3 mins
Lisa Selk
Matt Zeisler
Yay! High-res scanner!
Matt β€’ 2 mins
so the Board can review the meeeting and recommendation. πŸ˜ƒ
2 mins
Lisa Selk
David
Who would like to be added to the general 3D Fab chat ?

Tally and Eligibility of Votes

Member VOTE On Wiki 3D Fab General Member List? Voted before Brooks called end to voting? Requested to be able to vote prior to the end of the scheduled meeting time?
Lisa S Lisa Yes Yes Yes
Andrew F Lisa Yes Yes Yes
William P Lisa Yes Yes Yes
Mitch C Mitch Yes Yes Yes
Matthew W Mitch No Yes Yes
David R Mitch Yes Yes Yes
John K Mitch Yes Yes Yes
John L Mitch Yes Yes Yes
Krissy H Mitch Yes Yes Yes
Matt Z Lisa Yes Yes Yes
Sean G Abstain N/A N/A N/A
Oguz Y Lisa Yes Yes Yes
Shaun R Lisa Yes No Yes